William Ferris sings the praises of Mississippi blues musicians
Q: In
the introduction to Give My Poor Heart
Ease, you mention that "While I may live and work in
other places, my real home is the farm. It is my spiritual compass." How
so? And what was it that ultimately led you away from your family's farm
and down Highway 61?
A:
Growing up in an isolated
rural community with the black and white families who lived near my
home shaped me in deep, lasting ways. Stories told by my
grandfather, books read aloud by my mother, and hymns sung at
Rose Hill Church are memories that to this day are incredibly
vivid. These voices shaped my identity in deep, lasting
ways.
What ultimately led me away from my
family's farm was education: first to Brooks School in North Andover,
Massachusetts, then to Davidson College in Davidson, North
Carolina, to Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, to Trinity
College in Dublin, Ireland, and finally to the University of Pennsylvania
in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Earl MacCormac, my philosophy professor
at Davidson College, later told me that I had "more degrees
than a thermometer."
While these schools were
far from my family's farm, each in their own way helped me tack a course
back down Highway 61. While at Brooks School in the late fifties, I began a
pattern of recording and photographing musicians each time I returned to
the farm. As a graduate student in folklore at the University of
Pennsylvania in the late sixties, this work became the focus of my
dissertation. It was also at the University of Pennsylvania that
I began to use film to document the blues worlds in which I found myself
increasingly immersed.
Q: You began
collecting images and recordings for this book at a very young age. How old
were you when you began? What time span does the book
cover?
A:
I began
taking photographs at the age of twelve when I was given a Kodak box camera
with a flash attachment for Christmas. I took my
first black and white photographs of my family at my grandmother
Hester Flowers's Christmas dinner table in
Vicksburg, Mississippi, shortly after unwrapping the
box in which my camera came. I later took photographs of Rose
Hill Church baptisms in Hamer Bayou and in a pond near the
church. And I took photographs of my family at our home. The time span in my book is from the late 1960s
through the mid 1970s. As my work evolved, I returned each year to
visit musicians who were my friends. The films on the DVD with my
book capture performances by speakers and singers like Mary
Gordon, Reverend Isaac Thomas, James Thomas, and Wade Walton, first on
Super 8 black and white film shot in the late 1960s with a wild
sound track, and later on 16mm color film shot in the mid 1970s
with a synchronized sound track.
Q: How does this book differ from your
previous book on the blues, Blues from the
Delta?
A:
My original idea was to
"update" Blues from the Delta by adding more detail
about my blues research and the artists with whom I worked. The more I
thought about it, the more I felt this would be a stale rehashing of an
earlier book. As I looked through my transcriptions of interviews that
I had done in the late sixties, I felt that the real book lay in
"freeing" the voices of each speaker and letting them tell
their own story. In effect, I decided to change the book's
perspective from that of a white scholar talking about music to that of
black speakers describing their lives and how music shaped their worlds.
This approach allowed me to focus on the rich language of each
speaker and to capture each persona by using a series
of dramatic monologues, a form that I discovered through
the fiction of Ernest Gaines, Alice Walker, and Eudora Welty.
Q: This book is intensely personal, both in your
approach to it and in your subjects' willingness to reveal themselves to
you. It offers an extraordinary window into black churches, house parties,
barbershops, radio stations, cemeteries, and the list goes on. How did you
manage to get such a candid take on the world of the blues? And what
kinds of lessons did you learn along the way?
A:
I think the candid expression of
feelings by each speaker in my book reflects in part their and my
shared roots in Mississippi. On an important level, I was one of them, and
my presence in their homes indicated my commitment to telling their
stories. There was an implicit understanding that I was writing a book
that would relate their story in a clear, unvarnished
way. Once the tape began to run, their voices followed in truly
amazing ways. They felt comfortable with me, they trusted me, and I,
in turn, felt an obligation to share their lives through "the
book" about which we spoke.
I learned the wisdom of my father's rule that you
can learn a lesson from every person you meet in
life. I learned so much from each of the speakers in this
book. I learned that there is a timeless quality to the stories --
their humor, their pathos -- the moment they
are recorded, photographed, or filmed.
I also
learned that moments captured through media
are never fully heard or seen until later, when
the photograph is developed, the tape played back, the film
viewed. Each time I hear these recordings, look at the
photographs, or watch the films, I notice new details
that remind me that these worlds of storytelling and
music are richly textured and never stop speaking to
me.
Q: Why did you decide to
enhance the book with a CD and DVD? Ideally, how would you like your reader
to experience this multimedia introduction to the
blues?
A:
Thanks to the marvel of technology, folklorists today can have their
cake and eat it too. We can merge the printed word with sound
recordings and motion pictures in ways that make
this book dynamic and exciting. The reader of my book
first meets the speakers as he or she reads their narrative
and sees their photographs. They then hear each person's
voice as they speak and sing on the CD, and they come face to
face with the speakers and singers in films as they perform.
As a folklorist, I used sound recordings, photography, and
film to capture the full impact of stories and music. Until now,
however, I never had the luxury of merging all of
these media into a single package. The CD
and DVD deepen the relationship of the reader to the
book. Through sound recordings and film, they intensify
the relationship of the reader to each speaker
and allow the reader to meet the speakers in significantly
expanded ways.
Q: Other than in
the introduction and framing remarks for each section, you chose not to
include your voice in the published text or in the films and sound
recordings that accompany the book. Why not?
A:
I feel that this is a book about each
of the speakers, and my own voice is important only as it describes how we
met and sets the context of our visit. I believe that the
uninterrupted narrative voice of each speaker constitutes a folkloric
version of the dramatic monologue in literature. Through the narrative
voice of a single speaker, poets and writers like Robert
Browning, Ernest Gaines, Alice Walker, and Eudora Welty capture
intensely powerful moments in their work. I try to achieve a
similar effect by framing each section of the
book with the voice of the speaker or speakers whom I
recorded.
Q: One of your
first interview subjects was your family's black housekeeper, Mary Gordon.
Shortly before her death, she said, "You know, you are my white
child." How did your special bond with Mary Gordon influence your
work?
A:
Growing up
in a home where I spent many hours each day with Mary Gordon was an
important part of my childhood. Her voice, her sense of humor, her
stories, and her hymns were familiar, beloved parts of my
experience. In many ways, this book is, by
extension, a tribute to the history and culture of Mary
Gordon. While she was an important part of my family,
she also had an experience vastly different than my own. Her
ancestors were slaves who worked the land around our
home. Her ties to both the Rose Hill community and to
Africa shaped me in profoundly important ways.
Q: Some of the most arresting images in the
DVD are the scenes from Parchman Penitentiary, where the inmates of the
Mississippi penal farm chop wood to the rhythm of work chants. How did you
twice gain access to "Camp B," one of the largest black camps in
this segregated system?
A:
I was never sure how or why I was
allowed into Parchman's "Camp B," and I never
asked. Set apart from the main complex of Parchman, the camp is
located several miles to the north east of the town of Lambert,
Mississippi. On my first visit, I thought that I might have
been mistaken for another visitor who was coming on an official visit.
In both cases, however, I explained that I was writing "a book"
on music and wanted to record prison work chants. The officials
accepted this explanation for my visit and allowed me total access to the
inmates. During my first visit in the late sixties, I recorded and
filmed work chants outside the prison buildings and a sermon by a
white evangelical preacher in the dining hall that was
followed by a capella gospel singing led by an inmate
nicknamed "Flat Top" who sang with a beautiful
high pitched tenor voice.
Q: B.B. King is featured on your book's cover and you have said that he is
emblematic of all blues musicians. What will we learn from your book that
we might not already know about this man whose name is synonymous with the
blues?
A:
B.B. King has
a rare gift of humility and human warmth. In this interview he
describes his childhood years and explains that his career as a
blues singer is his way of reaching out to audiences whom he sees as
his extended family. The genuine warmth that King brings to his musical
performances allows him to communicate with fans throughout the
world. From Indianola to Moscow and beyond, he touches the hearts of
his audiences in profound ways.
We also learn
that King moved from church music to blues when he discovered
that blues fans were willing to pay to hear his music. And in his
career as a bluesman, King turned to jazz performers like Django Reinhardt,
as well as to blues performers like Lonnie Johnson for his inspiration.
Q: Are there any blues greats that you're
still hoping to interview?
A:
While I interviewed him earlier, I
would love to spend more time with Bobby Rush, one of the most
amazing performers I have encountered. I regret never
interviewing Bo Diddley before his death. We visited over
breakfast at Smitty's Restaurant after his last concert in Oxford,
Mississippi, and spoke about his childhood in McComb,
Mississippi. He explained how he learned to play the
one-strand-on-the-wall, also known as the diddy bow, from which he took his
name.
Q: How has the blues world
changed in the last forty years?
A:
The blues world has changed
dramatically over the past forty years. The most startling
changes have taken place in the Mississippi Delta, where much of
this book is set. The B.B. King Museum in Indianola, Mississippi is a
thirteen million dollar facility that pays tribute to B.B. King and to
the rich history of blues in the Delta. A steadily growing number
of blues markers establish blues trails where visitors can learn about the
homes, clubs, and graves of celebrated blues artists. And blues clubs
in towns and cities throughout the Delta feature live music performed
by local artists each week.
Blues are also
featured at the Grammy Awards, in House of Blues clubs, on
television, and in feature films by directors like Martin
Scorsese. Townes Van Zandt once remarked that "There are two
types of music: blues and zippedydoodah." The musical landscape
of our world today is deeply marked by the blues. And painters,
photographers, poets, and writers are inspired by the blues in their
work. Classical composer Lawrence Hoffman's "Blues For Harp,
Oboe, And Violoncello" reflects his impressive knowledge of both
country and urban blues styles.
It is moving and a
bit surprising to think how a music that began in isolated,
rural Mississippi has transformed our consciousness. The
music helps us deal with tragedy and sadness in a positive, healing
way.
Q: Who is on your watch
list of new blues artists?
A:
New blues artists include
the children of important blues musicians. Pat Thomas in Leland,
Mississippi, is following in the footsteps of his father James
Thomas. He recently released a CD of his recordings
and also makes clay sculpture of birds, animals, and human faces
that are inspired by his father's work.
Shemekia
Copeland, daughter of singer Johnny Copeland, has established
an impressive musical career and is following in her father's
footsteps. And Otha Turner's granddaughter Sharde Thomas is continuing
the fife and drum musical tradition of her grandfather.
Q: What advice would you offer a young folklorist
or documentarian or anyone aware of a "world waiting to be
noticed"?
A:
My counsel to students is to
follow your heart. If you love what you do, you will do it
well. There are so many worlds "waiting to be
noticed." We simply have to open our hearts and our minds and
listen to the voices who are waiting to speak with us. These voices
are like sign posts along a highway that will lead us on a
journey of discovery. It is exciting to pursue this work, to throw your
full energy into capturing and understanding the worlds you pursue.
The work will become a lifelong journey and will shape you in
lasting ways. It makes you a better, more sensitive person.
As you learn to walk in the shoes of others, you experience the
double consciousness that blacks have understood for generations.
Q: I've heard that your book is the
inspiration for a theatrical production. When can we look forward to seeing
it?
A:
University of
North Carolina theatre producer Joseph Megel and folklore students Whitney
Brown and Ashley Melzer have created a stage production based on the
speakers in this book. The production will feature a series of
readings enhanced with field recordings, photographs, films, and
live performances that will premiere during the coming
year.
And an exhibition of the photographs in
the book will open at the Ogden Museum in New Orleans in conjunction with
the 2010 New Orleans Jazz Festival.